Nice ones. I have a brownie twin flex, but I am having problems finding places to develope the film now since Ritz went out of business.
If you like this, you should look up TTY effects (now I can't verify if that's the correct term or not... it's shooting through older cameras or using filters of old cameras on photographop to fake the effect). It's basically what you were doing before, only you have fake TTY and real TTY.
Actually, what I am doing is without film. I have a Kodak Duaflex IV with a large cardboad tube gaffer taped to the view finder. On the other end goes the D80 with the 105mm prime macro. Basically, I'm taking a macro photo of the Duaflex's view finder. It actually works really well. Besides, who the hell wants to develop and scan film anymore?? LOL.
No, I didn't mean to use the film, I meant what you were doing. And I've done exactly what you've done. It's a great technique. You can do that in photoshop (that was my point) as well since Flickr has a group that uploads a variety of camera viewers and then you can blend them you want to as well. That's an option if you wanted. You get nearly the same affect.
Stand on soapbox: However, there is nothing wrong with shooting film, my friend. There is a film quality and some camera qualities you can't get digitally (well, without a TON of work, and without a large format digital camera). You can certainly try to replicate vignetting of a Holga, or the bleeding of a Diana, but all the professionals I've seen do it, haven't perfected some of the randomness of the variety of cameras out there. It's close, but I personally feel there is a light and color loss (tempurature). I could be wrong, but I've seen a lot of people try. That's why they still sell cameras like the diana, holgas, and just a variety of other cameras.
Go on Flickr and type in Film and you will see the MILLIONS of people that develop and scan film. I do not consider myself an old school photographer either, and I love both digital and film. I'm not saying you should throw your digital shit away, but what I do say is maybe if you are serious about photography (which I think you are) look into film a little. Look at Flickr more if you aren't already on there (I think you are, aren't you?). I can point you onto some interesting groups that would probably get you on a faster track of learning more techniques which you could apply to digital.
Let me show you a few of my film things since I don't think you've seen it (I posted MY TTY stuff a year ago, but here is my film):
Diana
Holga
Twinflex
Brownie "Double Exposure"
Polaroid
Let me know if you want me to help you. Just sayin'. I don't want to sound like an arrogant shit, and maybe I obviously wasn't clear in my last post. I just want to help, but I don't want to come off as a twat. You know what I mean?
Actually, I love film, learned on film, and shot film for *most* of my life. I sold off all my darkroom shit a couple years ago. L and I both used to do lots of "real" photography. But for me, the convenience of digital has kinda taken precedence. For me, it's the simple fact that most, if not all, of the photography I do nowadays is going to end up on the computer anyhow, so it is just a time and convenience thing. Scanning photos is very time consuming.
All that said, I should do a post of some of my old, real photography. I completely agree that real photography has it's place, and quite honestly, I find real photography looks better. This is especially the case when you are talking about motion pictures made with film vs digital and HD. All the new school stuff is cool, but there is just something magical that happens when you shoot with actual celluloid.
Am I serious about photography? I suppose, serious enough. I mean, it's one of the few hobbies I know I will pursue for the rest of my life. Even still, I really can't imagine going back to real film. Maybe someday, when I have more time to spend taking pictures, but for now I think I will be sticking to digital.
And speaking of light and color loss, I did desaturate these photos a tad in PS. :)
I think that's a little sad that you sold off your darkroom stuff. My mother gave away my dad's darkroom stuff years ago and now I can't find a lot of that stuff (enlargers mostly) or it's very expensive (I have too many bills that take precendence).
You should post your old photos and compare what you did then in comparison to what you do now. I think it's a great study of things you may have done that you liked that maybe you don't do anymore, or things that you do now that maybe you need to do more of.
I think one of the good/bad points about film is that you BETTER get your shot right the first time or else you're going to pay for it (you know what I mean). With digital you can shoot and shoot and shoot... no cost. But I find a lot of people get lazy (not you) and aren't as good at framing and composition within the camera. They just sort of shoot and pray that out of the hundreds of shots, one comes out good.
I do both film and digital. I'm hoping that once I pay down my bills, I can afford to buy a rolliflex (or similiar) and a large format digital. I also want to buy an old bellows camera (or even the newer japanese ones... those kick ass) that I can do emulsion prints. I want to try to do tin type prints and 1880 style shots as they were done then, but without the mercury. :)
Yeah, it is a little sad I suppose, but it's one of those things. I have SOOO MANY hobbies taking up space and time and sometimes, some things have to get cut. My enlarger and trays and all that were just collecting dust in a closet. When we moved, it was time to purge.
I really enjoy B/W photography, developing and enlarging. But if you are going to do it, you need to dedicate the time and space to have a full time darkroom. Someday, maybe we will get back into it.
I think I will do a post of some old stuff. I have some awesome photos of Linda when she was younger and more gothy. ;P
...before dinner on a pirate ship!! avec Black Bart!! ;)
ReplyDeleteI approve.
ReplyDeleteI kinda fooked up with these though, cause the camera was set to "close-up" so they are kinda blurry.
ReplyDeleteLOVE!
ReplyDeleteNice ones. I have a brownie twin flex, but I am having problems finding places to develope the film now since Ritz went out of business.
ReplyDeleteIf you like this, you should look up TTY effects (now I can't verify if that's the correct term or not... it's shooting through older cameras or using filters of old cameras on photographop to fake the effect). It's basically what you were doing before, only you have fake TTY and real TTY.
Actually, what I am doing is without film. I have a Kodak Duaflex IV with a large cardboad tube gaffer taped to the view finder. On the other end goes the D80 with the 105mm prime macro. Basically, I'm taking a macro photo of the Duaflex's view finder. It actually works really well. Besides, who the hell wants to develop and scan film anymore?? LOL.
ReplyDeleteLike this:
ReplyDeletehttp://chriskeeneyphoto.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/canon-5d-ttv-100mm-ck.jpg
COOL!!!
ReplyDeleteLooks like really from that times long bevore O_O!
No, I didn't mean to use the film, I meant what you were doing. And I've done exactly what you've done. It's a great technique. You can do that in photoshop (that was my point) as well since Flickr has a group that uploads a variety of camera viewers and then you can blend them you want to as well. That's an option if you wanted. You get nearly the same affect.
ReplyDeleteStand on soapbox: However, there is nothing wrong with shooting film, my friend. There is a film quality and some camera qualities you can't get digitally (well, without a TON of work, and without a large format digital camera). You can certainly try to replicate vignetting of a Holga, or the bleeding of a Diana, but all the professionals I've seen do it, haven't perfected some of the randomness of the variety of cameras out there. It's close, but I personally feel there is a light and color loss (tempurature). I could be wrong, but I've seen a lot of people try. That's why they still sell cameras like the diana, holgas, and just a variety of other cameras.
Go on Flickr and type in Film and you will see the MILLIONS of people that develop and scan film. I do not consider myself an old school photographer either, and I love both digital and film. I'm not saying you should throw your digital shit away, but what I do say is maybe if you are serious about photography (which I think you are) look into film a little. Look at Flickr more if you aren't already on there (I think you are, aren't you?). I can point you onto some interesting groups that would probably get you on a faster track of learning more techniques which you could apply to digital.
Let me show you a few of my film things since I don't think you've seen it (I posted MY TTY stuff a year ago, but here is my film):
Diana
Holga
Twinflex
Brownie "Double Exposure"
Polaroid
Let me know if you want me to help you. Just sayin'. I don't want to sound like an arrogant shit, and maybe I obviously wasn't clear in my last post. I just want to help, but I don't want to come off as a twat. You know what I mean?
Actually, I love film, learned on film, and shot film for *most* of my life. I sold off all my darkroom shit a couple years ago. L and I both used to do lots of "real" photography. But for me, the convenience of digital has kinda taken precedence. For me, it's the simple fact that most, if not all, of the photography I do nowadays is going to end up on the computer anyhow, so it is just a time and convenience thing. Scanning photos is very time consuming.
ReplyDeleteAll that said, I should do a post of some of my old, real photography. I completely agree that real photography has it's place, and quite honestly, I find real photography looks better. This is especially the case when you are talking about motion pictures made with film vs digital and HD. All the new school stuff is cool, but there is just something magical that happens when you shoot with actual celluloid.
Am I serious about photography? I suppose, serious enough. I mean, it's one of the few hobbies I know I will pursue for the rest of my life. Even still, I really can't imagine going back to real film. Maybe someday, when I have more time to spend taking pictures, but for now I think I will be sticking to digital.
And speaking of light and color loss, I did desaturate these photos a tad in PS. :)
I think that's a little sad that you sold off your darkroom stuff. My mother gave away my dad's darkroom stuff years ago and now I can't find a lot of that stuff (enlargers mostly) or it's very expensive (I have too many bills that take precendence).
ReplyDeleteYou should post your old photos and compare what you did then in comparison to what you do now. I think it's a great study of things you may have done that you liked that maybe you don't do anymore, or things that you do now that maybe you need to do more of.
I think one of the good/bad points about film is that you BETTER get your shot right the first time or else you're going to pay for it (you know what I mean). With digital you can shoot and shoot and shoot... no cost. But I find a lot of people get lazy (not you) and aren't as good at framing and composition within the camera. They just sort of shoot and pray that out of the hundreds of shots, one comes out good.
I do both film and digital. I'm hoping that once I pay down my bills, I can afford to buy a rolliflex (or similiar) and a large format digital. I also want to buy an old bellows camera (or even the newer japanese ones... those kick ass) that I can do emulsion prints. I want to try to do tin type prints and 1880 style shots as they were done then, but without the mercury. :)
Yeah, it is a little sad I suppose, but it's one of those things. I have SOOO MANY hobbies taking up space and time and sometimes, some things have to get cut. My enlarger and trays and all that were just collecting dust in a closet. When we moved, it was time to purge.
ReplyDeleteI really enjoy B/W photography, developing and enlarging. But if you are going to do it, you need to dedicate the time and space to have a full time darkroom. Someday, maybe we will get back into it.
I think I will do a post of some old stuff. I have some awesome photos of Linda when she was younger and more gothy. ;P